Hi everyone! it is aweful that chesstroid is Stuck on February. but,the visitors of this website keep its alive. I thanked both Rahul and karim who provides us engine and book when gurcan and alexie are silent. okay now I am going to talk about tournament when Rahul post here a tournament result of andscacs/ethereal then I was surprised by the result. The results show tat ethereal is stronger than andscacs. So I was very curious to know that Is ethereal exactly stronger than andscacs?and yes,it is.
here I am posting tournament result and I want to see what Rahul and other will say on this. https://www104.zippyshare.com/v/kFw6futV/file.html
In first link has pgn, its Score of Andscacs 0.921 vs Ethereal 10.76: W214 - L448 - D338 [0.383] 1000 Elo difference: -82.83 +/- 17.75 Ethereal is +82 elo stronger.
Tc=10s+0.1 hash-8 threads-1 Score of CiChess 2.2 110418 x64 POP vs Stockfish 220618 64 POPCNT: 216 - 293 - 491 [0.462] 1000 Elo difference: -26.81 +/- 15.35
As you all can see STOCKFISH doesn't gain much elo against cichess,only +26 elo gain. Unfortunately, we don't have cichess2.4. if anyone have cichess 2.4 for android then please share with us. Thanks!!
Yeah!clapping for ethereal. my tournament on 32-bit and armv7, well what about Xiphos and critter tournament or xiphos and ethereal? I think xiphos and ethereal would be interesting for tournament. But sf7 is still stronger.
hi to all hey-Rahul! the summary of your tournament 214 games were won by andscacs, 448 games were won by ethereal, 338 games were drawn, i removed all comments from the tournament,and devided them into 5 pgns for better understanding, get the link http://www.mediafire.com/file/cjdxwtxdxhmm107/Result-of-games-by-karim.7z/file
Hi to all,I will share the UCI engines by Sir Alexei Chernakoff(Chernakov) and also the 3 XBoard Engines still not yet here in Chesstroid(I dug this in my old device and still works well in my marshmallow).Enjoy! Here's the link:https://www.mediafire.com/folder/4m56qpckevyn9/Documents
I have to acknowledge Raff for sending me the engines of Sir Alexei,thanks man!The Shashchess 2.0 ACH included in the package has Tal,Capablanca,Petrosian personalities in UCI options that we can choose from.
Rahul bro you are wonderful tons of thanx Indians are great love you brother thanx for sharing all engines and bro do you have latest brain fish and one question is cerebellum book can work with other engines on droid fish android
Hi faiz, I have no brainfish, when I will get latest brainfish then I share it here. About cerebellum book, I have no idea. May be,Lazar Dourakis explain it.
To Rahul,thanks for sharing the latest SF,to Faiz yes you can use the Cerebellum book with other engines in DroidFish especially effective in duo with other SF variants like Cfish and SugaR.
Thanx Paulzz and Rahul for information ,Guys do you have XIphos engine I downloaded from here 03 version but that's hang not work properly on droid fish, One Question guys what do you think which engine is best more human like and more unique I heard XIphos play very beautifully like kasprov and tai , I am looking for a engine who played very uniquely and beautifully
Friends there is a link of a group on what's app for andrpid chess lover if you like you can join by link below https://chat.whatsapp.com/AL3l3cdRmp4I5FP5qN9Uyn
Thanks again to Raff for sending me the latest Stockfish in time,thanks also to Rahul for sharing the latest Cfish here.To Faiz,in my opinion if you want an engine which can play like human,try Shredder Chess which you can purchase in the Play store.Even though it's an old engine it's still good and makes some deliberate mistake like human.
hi guys! i hope you are all fine and healthy, however i am no more chesstroid follower,because of losing my friendly ASUS Memopad Tablet Which can't be repaired... so today it reminded me,that once i promised you guys for bringing the ARENA chess book called (Olympaid)to android, means to polyglot format. so here i am ready with my promise. to tell you the truth this is my favorite chess book among all that i have,,, the length of this book was so long that most of the opening could reach to checkmate, so the size of this book was nearly 170mb, therefor i decided to reduce it's size. BOOK DEPTH: 10moves BOOK POSITIONS: 22,153 purified positions without duplicates get the link below http://www.mediafire.com/file/ei6la2xukl87bi3/Olympaid-Book-for-android.7z/file
NOTE: i have also included the PGN into 7zip file,,,
hello again guys. visiting this site :https://sites.google.com/site/numptychess/arena-opening-books
i found the LIBRA8 opening book intrested,so as usual i converted it for you guys. get the link bellow http://www.mediafire.com/file/1vltxzozrg03q0x/Libra8.7z/file
the libra8 opening book specially designed for engine vs engine matches,plz read the above given link carefully, thanks in advance
hey paul ! i have repeated it many times, i love chestroid and visit it more facebook and any other pages and sites,,,why not i will keep visiting it till it exist or i am alive, i meant to say i can't follow chess engines lol,,cause i am logon from my old laptop,
Btw guys,the latest Baron chess engine(version 3.43) and it's polyglot book has been released last July by Richard. The opening book can be used in DroidFish,get it here:www.chessprogramming.net/new-version-of-the-baron-v3-43-plus-the-barons-polyglot-opening-book/ I hope the author could also make The Baron engine available for Android. To our good friend Karim,may I kindly ask if you can make the Olympiad bin book depth up to 14 moves? :-)
hey paul yes i have already converted it to 15moves, but i remember you was always liked shorter depth as 8moves, therefore i convert it to 10moves for you guys,
Thank you Karim for your efforts ! Actually I like the longer depth opening books as I use them for studying openings,I only use the short 8-10 moves book for Engine vs Engine games like your recently released Libra8.bin.
Karim have you already saw the huge opening book for Stockfish here?http://www.chess-wizard.com I just saw this yesterday upon searching the net. Btw,in your Olympiad-15m file,it has the pgn file but has no bin book yet...can you please share the 15m.bin?The Olympiad book is now one of my favorites...Thank you Karim!:)I hope you're not angry.
now you becomes day by day my best online friend,cause my real friend is who, who finds my mistakes, i really appriciate it,infact i mistakenly compressed two times the pgn file, instead of bin file,this is called dizzyness lol, when you have lots of pgn files,but never mind i will share this time both pgn and binary as usual to 7zip...
me just checked the stockfish opening book ,it had only two lines,,d4 and e4, and it's depth wasn't longer more than 11moves, i personally liked it very less, say it only 5-percent lol, and yesterday after installing Arena 32bit to my laptop, i noticed it had Olympaid opening book only 529kb abk file, after converting it to polyglot i noticed it was 8moves but had more opening lines that weren't exist into our 10moves Olympaid book, so i decided to merge it with our 10moves book, and took only some minutes, it is already ready for sharing ,only waits for your orders,lol....................
Dear All we have an what's group only for android users where members share free and commercial engines ,opening books and software with each other if you interested you can join via link below https://chat.whatsapp.com/AL3l3cdRmp4I5FP5qN9Uyn
Hi to all,I will share the engine compiles by Sir Alexei Chernakoff(Cfish,CiChess and Xiphos)+ the latest versions of ArmFish and MateFish by Counterplay(different from the original version by Lyudmil Antonov but this seems stronger and faster).Thank you to Mr.Raff for sharing Alexei's engines!Enjoy! https://www.mediafire.com/folder/e0jngp44qgvcc/Engine+Pack
Sir Gurcan Uckardes will be back in October last he has told us in 258 comments! https://www113.zippyshare.com/v/ttaG3W0c/file.html latest corchess here!!
https://app.box.com/s/4jutm09kindx837l97wzusj9097bp6im latest Ethereal and Xiphos!!
Rahul do you have other link for Corchess besides zippyshare?The site has a lot ads that can redirect you to other sites...and maybe not safe.Thank you in advance!
Chysiddh Lazar here. Please confirm All alexei arm8 static library engines work as well as all Stockfish and komodo and acid ape wngines from google play right? Try senpai 2 arm8 as well as some arm7 engines like toga 1.3.1 and pawny 1.2 and old stockfish engines. arm7 and arm8 should work on your device hmm..
Chysiddh, its a little miracle that Critter works as its arm 5. Generally all Alexei arm8 with static libraries (so all Alexei arm8 engines from last 13 months) should work as well as all arm8 extracted from free chess apps from GP. Now arm 7, most should work but some may not. Arm 5 generally may not work. Also please clarify: the engines that dont work - they dont work on droidfish, or in Chess for Android (Aart Bik) or they simply dont work no matter what chess gui software you use? Try TEXEL 1.08a11 or 1.07a12 (from Peter Osterlund dropbox) and stockfish 6 arm64, stockfish 8 arm64 and some other older arm 8 engines. These should all work..but its a good test to try as stockfish 6 and 8 are old now.Yeah its a pain that you cant get them all to work as before.Try the ones i mention above ..texel stockfish 6&8 and some other arm 8 and arm 7 popular engines and report back when you can..and specify what software you use them on- droidfish or chess for android or other. Good luck friend ;-)
thanks for ur reply alexei engine run properly in my device stockfish komodo texel all works.
its older engine which is present in chesstroid which is not working i mention it before but i m trying to use all chess engine present here 1 by 1 some might works
i use droidfish then chesa tournament and acid ape chess
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Hi everyone!
it is aweful that chesstroid is Stuck on February.
but,the visitors of this website keep its alive.
I thanked both Rahul and karim who provides us engine and book when gurcan and alexie are silent. okay now I am going to talk about tournament when Rahul post here a tournament result of andscacs/ethereal then I was surprised by the result. The results show tat ethereal is stronger than andscacs. So I was very curious to know that Is ethereal exactly stronger than andscacs?and yes,it is.
here I am posting tournament result and I want to see what Rahul and other will say on this.
https://www104.zippyshare.com/v/kFw6futV/file.html
Hi unknown,
Now, the reality is that we have a new and strong engine "Ethereal"as well as xiphos too.
By your test it has been confirmed.
Thanks!
By the way, In which device you made all games 32-bit or 64-bit and armv8 or armv7.
Because my all game played on 64-bit device and armv8 engine, which is better, faster and reliable.
Hi unknown,
As,you made 1000 games between andscasc and Ethereal, so now I again made a tournament.
See here,
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1HOFigRDUirxuKhQmDgvWOzOH1n1k-Ni4
In first link has pgn, its Score of Andscacs 0.921 vs Ethereal 10.76: W214 - L448 - D338 [0.383] 1000
Elo difference: -82.83 +/- 17.75
Ethereal is +82 elo stronger.
Tc-10+0.1 hash-8 threads-1
Score of Stockfish 7 64 vs Ethereal 10.76: 434 - 190 - 376 [0.622] 1000
Elo difference: 86.52 +/- 17.19
Tc=10s+0.1 hash-8 threads-1
Score of CiChess 2.2 110418 x64 POP vs Stockfish 220618 64 POPCNT: 216 - 293 - 491 [0.462] 1000
Elo difference: -26.81 +/- 15.35
As you all can see STOCKFISH doesn't gain much elo against cichess,only +26 elo gain.
Unfortunately, we don't have cichess2.4. if anyone have cichess 2.4 for android then please share with us.
Thanks!!
How do you set +0.1s increment in CfA? Minimum is +1s?
Yeah!clapping for ethereal.
my tournament on 32-bit and armv7, well what about Xiphos and critter tournament or xiphos and ethereal? I think
xiphos and ethereal would be interesting for tournament.
But sf7 is still stronger.
Version of CT800 1.31 now out with it's opening book expanded:https://www.ct800.net/sw_release_v131.htm
Thanks for info Paulzzz ! I only just saw that we are now chatting here in this post haha.I was wondering why it looked so quiet :-D
hi to all
hey-Rahul!
the summary of your tournament
214 games were won by andscacs,
448 games were won by ethereal,
338 games were drawn,
i removed all comments from the tournament,and devided them into 5 pgns for better understanding,
get the link
http://www.mediafire.com/file/cjdxwtxdxhmm107/Result-of-games-by-karim.7z/file
Hi Karim, Rahul and Lazar! What's your e-mail addresses?I will send you engines by Sir Alexei...and the others I have.
hi paul,
why you dont simply share it over here? so can be more benificial to all visitors..
Ok
Hi to all,I will share the UCI engines by Sir Alexei Chernakoff(Chernakov) and also the 3 XBoard Engines still not yet here in Chesstroid(I dug this in my old device and still works well in my marshmallow).Enjoy!
Here's the link:https://www.mediafire.com/folder/4m56qpckevyn9/Documents
I have to acknowledge Raff for sending me the engines of Sir Alexei,thanks man!The Shashchess 2.0 ACH included in the package has Tal,Capablanca,Petrosian personalities in UCI options that we can choose from.
Thx Paulzzz for sharing them for others, as I said I don't wanna signup with sharing sites as I don't use them.
Call me old fashioned ;)
thanks
paullzzzz
You're all welcome!
Hi all,
Enjoy the latest engines by our respected sir Alexie.
Here:
https://www7.zippyshare.com/v/XeluCahQ/file.html
Latest sugar chess is also here:
https://app.box.com/s/45nxnv359d6sgv9db08szuufa57h035x
thanks
Rahul,great,job
Thank you Rahul!
Rahul and Paul thank you so much brother Tons of thanx , Brothers from where you found such amazing engine
The Cfish and Shashchess engines by Sir Alexei were sent to me by Raff while I got the 3 XBoard engines years ago from Kirill Kryukov's repository.
Get the latest SF here,
https://app.box.com/s/ftrcdw2ll1o3o33t67p10sm43gsvvoyj
Rahul, you becoming a star of Chesstroid now :) Thank you for sharing all these engines, keep Android chess alive ;)
Rahul bro you are wonderful tons of thanx Indians are great love you brother thanx for sharing all engines and bro do you have latest brain fish and one question is cerebellum book can work with other engines on droid fish android
Hi faiz,
I have no brainfish, when I will get latest brainfish then I share it here.
About cerebellum book, I have no idea.
May be,Lazar Dourakis explain it.
To Rahul,thanks for sharing the latest SF,to Faiz yes you can use the Cerebellum book with other engines in DroidFish especially effective in duo with other SF variants like Cfish and SugaR.
Thanx Paulzz and Rahul for information ,Guys do you have XIphos engine I downloaded from here 03 version but that's hang not work properly on droid fish,
One Question guys what do you think which engine is best more human like and more unique I heard XIphos play very beautifully like kasprov and tai , I am looking for a engine who played very uniquely and beautifully
friends do you know any other site or blog where I can download chess engine for android
Friends there is a link of a group on what's app for andrpid chess lover if you like you can join by link below https://chat.whatsapp.com/AL3l3cdRmp4I5FP5qN9Uyn
Latest cfish by Sir Alexie!
Enjoy!
https://app.box.com/s/mcgrwfdni8k12rwaabtz0wh7wf4ksyz0
Fresh Stockfish by Sir Alexei Chernakov.Get it here:https://www.mediafire.com/folder/bdicg830bxyl9/New+Stockfish
Thanks again to Raff for sending me the latest Stockfish in time,thanks also to Rahul for sharing the latest Cfish here.To Faiz,in my opinion if you want an engine which can play like human,try Shredder Chess which you can purchase in the Play store.Even though it's an old engine it's still good and makes some deliberate mistake like human.
Hi paulzzz,
I have already posted latest SF.
Hi Rahul,the previously posted SF is dated 010518...
The one I posted is dated 170818...
Ohh! It was my fault.
Feeling sad!
Actually, I have the latest one but I attached a wrong option.
No worries, just a mistake
Thank you
hi guys!
i hope you are all fine and healthy,
however i am no more chesstroid follower,because of losing my friendly ASUS Memopad Tablet Which can't be repaired...
so today it reminded me,that once i promised you guys for bringing the ARENA chess book called (Olympaid)to android, means to polyglot format.
so here i am ready with my promise.
to tell you the truth this is my favorite chess book among all that i have,,, the length of this book was so long that most of the opening could reach to checkmate,
so the size of this book was nearly 170mb, therefor i decided to reduce it's size.
BOOK DEPTH: 10moves
BOOK POSITIONS: 22,153 purified positions without duplicates
get the link below
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ei6la2xukl87bi3/Olympaid-Book-for-android.7z/file
NOTE: i have also included the PGN into 7zip file,,,
Many thanks Karim!I hope you keep hanging here...
hello again guys.
visiting this site :https://sites.google.com/site/numptychess/arena-opening-books
i found the LIBRA8 opening book intrested,so as usual i converted it for you guys.
get the link bellow
http://www.mediafire.com/file/1vltxzozrg03q0x/Libra8.7z/file
the libra8 opening book specially designed for engine vs engine matches,plz read the above given link carefully,
thanks in advance
hey paul !
i have repeated it many times, i love chestroid and visit it more facebook and any other pages and sites,,,why not i will keep visiting it till it exist or i am alive,
i meant to say i can't follow chess engines lol,,cause i am logon from my old laptop,
Btw guys,the latest Baron chess engine(version 3.43) and it's polyglot book has been released last July by Richard. The opening book can be used in DroidFish,get it here:www.chessprogramming.net/new-version-of-the-baron-v3-43-plus-the-barons-polyglot-opening-book/
I hope the author could also make The Baron engine available for Android.
To our good friend Karim,may I kindly ask if you can make the Olympiad bin book depth up to 14 moves? :-)
hey paul
yes i have already converted it to 15moves, but i remember you was always liked shorter depth as 8moves, therefore i convert it to 10moves for you guys,
http://www.mediafire.com/file/hmhczkpgnwmrcem/olympaid-33334p-15m.7z/file
Thank you Karim for your efforts ! Actually I like the longer depth opening books as I use them for studying openings,I only use the short 8-10 moves book for Engine vs Engine games like your recently released Libra8.bin.
Karim have you already saw the huge opening book for Stockfish here?http://www.chess-wizard.com
I just saw this yesterday upon searching the net.
Btw,in your Olympiad-15m file,it has the pgn file but has no bin book yet...can you please share the 15m.bin?The Olympiad book is now one of my favorites...Thank you Karim!:)I hope you're not angry.
now you becomes day by day my best online friend,cause my real friend is who, who finds my mistakes, i really appriciate it,infact i mistakenly compressed two times the pgn file, instead of bin file,this is called dizzyness lol, when you have lots of pgn files,but never mind i will share this time both pgn and binary as usual to 7zip...
http://www.mediafire.com/file/9bfmoxga8tasvna/Olympaid-opening-15m-4Android.7z/file
me just checked the stockfish opening book ,it had only two lines,,d4 and e4, and it's depth wasn't longer more than 11moves, i personally liked it very less, say it only 5-percent lol,
and yesterday after installing Arena 32bit to my laptop, i noticed it had Olympaid opening book only 529kb abk file, after converting it to polyglot i noticed it was 8moves but had more opening lines that weren't exist into our 10moves Olympaid book,
so i decided to merge it with our 10moves book, and took only some minutes,
it is already ready for sharing ,only waits for your orders,lol....................
Dear All we have an what's group only for android users where members share free and commercial engines ,opening books and software with each other if you interested you can join via link below https://chat.whatsapp.com/AL3l3cdRmp4I5FP5qN9Uyn
Thank you Karim for the Olympiad 15m.bin!And can we order(LOL) the merged version of the book?:-)
you are welcome paul.
of course, it is already prepard
http://www.mediafire.com/file/r4729ruc8sf9fjr/Olympaid-opening-8m-4Android.7z/file
Notice: after merging, The ply limit i set was 16,
so the book's depth is 8moves
Thank you Karim:-) Your books are very useful.
New Cfish by Alexei:https://www.mediafire.com/folder/4j8b1kevkbd81/New+Cfish
Thank you Raff!:)
New and strong polyglot book by Jeroen Noomen called "Fish Book" which scored a victory vs Cerebellum book:http://rebel13.nl/download/books.html
Thanks for link Paulzzz. Never enough good books ;)
I ran fast 200 games 10s+0.1 tournament between Cfish 010918 and Cfish 310718. Cfish 0109 won 112 1/2-87 1/2 (+36 Elo, +-18). Nice score
You're welcome.The new Cfish built is very strong especially when it's using the bookfish.bin by J.Noomen��
Hey guys is there a new chat group created on another site as it aeems very quiet here now? Lazar here :-)
Hi Lazar!There's no new chat group,the others I think are busy:)
Perfect 2018 ctg book by Sedat:https://sites.google.com/site/computerschess/perfect2018books
Thanks Paulzzz. And thanks for replying.it really has gotten quiet in here lol.
Thanks for the book link ;-)
Thanks Paulzzz. And thanks for replying.it really has gotten quiet in here lol.
Thanks for the book link ;-)
Hi to all,I will share the engine compiles by Sir Alexei Chernakoff(Cfish,CiChess and Xiphos)+ the latest versions of ArmFish and MateFish by Counterplay(different from the original version by Lyudmil Antonov but this seems stronger and faster).Thank you to Mr.Raff for sharing Alexei's engines!Enjoy!
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/e0jngp44qgvcc/Engine+Pack
CT800 Update:https://www.ct800.net/sw_release_v132.htm
Awesome Paulzzz. Thanks for the engines
thanks paulzz for sharing chess engine updates
i m back n i m wondering alexei gurcan n all chess members will come back soon
You're welcome chysiddh14 and Mr.Anonymous.It's also nice to see you back here chysiddh14,I also hope for Gurcan&Alexei's comeback...:-D
That was me Paulzzz. Hello again chysiddh14.Yeah not sure Gurcan will be updating this site ever again..But maybe im wrong ;-)
https://app.box.com/s/lmrel5b7o1iqm2k2d7au99lk79zxahks
Latest SF here
Sir Gurcan Uckardes will be back in October last he has told us in 258 comments!
https://www113.zippyshare.com/v/ttaG3W0c/file.html latest corchess here!!
https://app.box.com/s/4jutm09kindx837l97wzusj9097bp6im latest Ethereal and Xiphos!!
Latest Arasan and rodent are here!!
Arasan-https://app.box.com/s/5drgehr7ddtl2d57dwpfp1qywdc3hlqk
Rocent-
https://app.box.com/s/k3ae3i2cm20r1g8pnt8o3wrt2o6nx94z
All compilation by our respected sir Alexie!!
Thank you Rahul for sharing!That was good news!
Rahul do you have other link for Corchess besides zippyshare?The site has a lot ads that can redirect you to other sites...and maybe not safe.Thank you in advance!
why dont Alexie post it ?
why he is disappearing ??
He's probably waiting for Sir Gurcan to update this blog before he return again...
is there is a way to download all chess engine at once ?it takes me lot of time to download 1 by 1
i m playing with chess tournament app now is it error free ?
or should i go with chess for android app
I use both GUI's for Engine tournament.
https://app.box.com/s/9sldf7vs63tiqvhjd13zsbj7k9wecplr
Latest sugar
Rahul hello. Forgot to thank you for posting the new engines days ago. I especially like Rodent!
thanks for sugar my personal fav
after os update to oreo most of the chess engine wont work in my device
in naugat all works
someone will try to find an idea to work all chess engine
You mean arm8 arm7 or arm5 dont work. I understand if arm5 dont work but arm7 and arm8 should. Whats your cpu and device type?
Chysiddh Lazar here. Please confirm
All alexei arm8 static library engines work as well as all Stockfish and komodo and acid ape wngines from google play right? Try senpai 2 arm8 as well as some arm7 engines like toga 1.3.1 and pawny 1.2 and old stockfish engines. arm7 and arm8 should work on your device hmm..
its apilchess alfil blackmamba cyclone deepsaros demolito then i stop trying
but critter n firenzina works in my device
my device exynos 7870 oreo 8.1
Chysiddh, its a little miracle that Critter works as its arm 5. Generally all Alexei arm8 with static libraries (so all Alexei arm8 engines from last 13 months) should work as well as all arm8 extracted from free chess apps from GP. Now arm 7, most should work but some may not. Arm 5 generally may not work. Also please clarify: the engines that dont work - they dont work on droidfish, or in Chess for Android (Aart Bik) or they simply dont work no matter what chess gui software you use? Try TEXEL 1.08a11 or 1.07a12 (from Peter Osterlund dropbox) and stockfish 6 arm64, stockfish 8 arm64 and some other older arm 8 engines. These should all work..but its a good test to try as stockfish 6 and 8 are old now.Yeah its a pain that you cant get them all to work as before.Try the ones i mention above ..texel stockfish 6&8 and some other arm 8 and arm 7 popular engines and report back when you can..and specify what software you use them on- droidfish or chess for android or other. Good luck friend ;-)
thanks for ur reply
alexei engine run properly in my device
stockfish komodo texel all works.
its older engine which is present in chesstroid
which is not working i mention it before
but i m trying to use all chess engine present here 1 by 1
some might works
i use droidfish then chesa tournament and acid ape chess
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