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January 12, 2018

TCEC Season-10: Who's the winner, really?

The 10th season of TCEC may have been the most interesting of all seasons. The three muskeeters met once again at the top and equally shared three available crowns. I'm not interested in constructing a spectacular article about which one is stronger. I just think they are very close to each other and generating an obvious difference seems very difficult between them, even with such extreme hardware used by TCEC organisers.
We've seen Houdini reaching 70 MNps in some starting positions and Stockfish floating around 55. It was impressive to see 43 threads running together. All that's left to do is to thank all TCEC team for the great show they delivered to chess lovers.

7-December-2017: Houdini 6.02 wins TCEC Tournament
READ MORE AT CHESSDOM

25-December-2017: Stockfish wins TCEC Rapid
READ MORE AT CHESSDOM

30-December-2017: Komodo wins TCEC Blitz
READ MORE AT CHESSDOM

By the way, you should not miss the great article published by Chessbase which included comments by the authors of Houdini and Komodo. A must read for all:
HOUDINI WINS THE TCEC SUPERFINAL

All games and crosstables available in the TCEC ARCHIVE BY CHESSDOM



39 comments:

karim ullah said...

hi all, are there any apps that can create bin file format from a komodo opening book? so I will add it to droidfish for practicing a specific opening

chysiddh14 said...

i think ( i m new as well ) try downloading noomen ctg or simply download komodo opening book

karim ullah said...

I all ready have it, but I want to create my own opening book..

Paulzzz said...

About critter I've downloaded Hex Editor App by First Row and searched for the 17th byte but the 02 that need to be changed wasn't present.How to deal with this?

Paulzzz said...

About critter,I've downloaded the Hex Editor App by First Row and searched for the 17th byte.The 02 value that needs to be changed wasn't present.How to deal with this?Thanks.

karim ullah said...

Paulzzz, I think hex editor won't work if u are an android user, because as much I know, the bin format of Windows is not readable by an android app, I've tried many them...

Alexei Chernakoff said...

No, it's possible through the android application. I edited via HexEditor app. Everything works well.

chysiddh14 said...

Paul
look in 1st paragraph
7F 45 ......

in 2nd
00 00 ......

3rd
02 it is to be changed to 03 and save , exit n use in droidfish

chysiddh14 said...

i also use hex editor in android its free

chysiddh14 said...

hey gurcan
can u suggest me minimum no. of games to be played as a tournament ?

i m a bit confuse
firenzina 2.4.1 beats stockfish 7 n also komodo 8 ( i m only using free engine which is supported in my android device n chess tournament app )

i think My mobile chess rating goes
Firenzina 2.4.1
Stockfish 7
Andscacs

Lazar Dourakis said...

Yes i also used hexeditor app on android.Works great

Rahul Srivastav said...

Hi,Chysiddh can you provide me link for firenzina2.4.1?? because there is nothing on the web and i also try its official site and file downloaded but empty.there is nothing. and please mention if any editing necessary in the file.

chysiddh14 said...

u can either download from website
https://firenzina.wikispaces.com

n modify like critter 02 to 03 if not working

http://chesstroid.blogspot.com/2016/12/android-uci-engine-update-firenzina-243.html?m=1

it doesn't work in my device ( modifying like critter also )

or

http://chesstroid.blogspot.com/2014/08/new-uci-engine-for-android-firenzina.html?m=1

it works modifying like critter

it feels strong in my android beating stockfish7 2 times in chess tournament app


Rahul Srivastav said...

Thanks a lot Chysiddh it work great and it may be possible to set threads if possible then how?tell me

karim ullah said...

Well, I don't know, but can you tell me how to create bin file using hexeditor ? Pretend I have some opening moves for both sides, (example) 1.e5 c5 2.nf3 d6 3.d5 cxd5.. it's a bit long opening, now how to make a bin file from it?

Alex said...

Rahul Srivastav - open fire.cfg file with notepad and set the follow, and save changes.
-------------------------------------------
[] Firenzina 2.4.2 xTreme default fire.cfg

// System
Verbose_UCI 0
Write_Log 0
Hash 128
Pawn_Hash 32
Max_Threads 4
Min_Threads 4
MultiPV 1

Rahul Srivastav said...

Hi, Alex i did what you mention above but it didn't work for Firenzina 2.4.3xTreme. cfa shows engine failed to run.

Actually, i want to run Firenzina 2.4.3 xTreme for a month but every times failed.

chysiddh14 said...

Rahul same problem here
i also want firenzina 2.4.3



there is app called md chess in playstore
copy of Droidfish
so i think chess fan n software engineer please modify adding chess tournament

n someone please kindly ans me
which type of tournament to play with chess engine

so as to have minmum no. of games
to have strong chess engines face each other
( plz dont say knockout )

Paulzzz said...

Hi chyssidh14,thanks on your tip I've saw the 02 value now and critter works both in DroidFish,CEPA and CfA.Btw,critter's opening book works in cfa and it's still good.

Paulzzz said...

Regarding engine tournaments/matches I'm using Chess Tournament&CEPA by javiolo and also CfA.Acid Ape Chess in my opinion is overrated and as pointed out by Alexei, many engines have problem working on that GUI

karim ullah said...

Why there isn't an apps on the earth to convert pgn to bin file ? I'm tired of searching Google...

chysiddh14 said...

Regarding Paulzzz
i use chess tournament app as well

but i need a format to battle the engine
like rapiddroid or tcec
to generate own ranking ( only for my personal use ) but i need less games

tournament format i needed actually

chysiddh14 said...

Round Robin or Gauntlet
both produces a lot of games.......

i usually game between 1 vs 1
then another 1 vs 1
who wins or same elo matching them again
but some engine plays alot of game while others not

chysiddh14 said...

yesterday firenzina beats every chess engine evn stockfish7

now what happened it losses n win with other chess engine


i use default settings in chess tournament app
yesterday game pgn
https://app.box.com/s/ckvbudr4yah0garr3d2r14wcd5et0np5

please answer why it is stronger yesterday

Alexei Chernakoff said...

You have something wrong. Stockfish 7 is stronger than Firenzina on any machine and in any shell. One and two batches are not enough for a reliable result (dozens, hundreds and sometimes thousands of games are needed).

Rahul Srivastav said...

Hi,sir Alexie today i made match between andscacs, critter and firenzina and i saw that Andscacs lost engine in all game against every engine at cfa why?? before this i didn't use andscacs at cfa.

Gurcan Uckardes said...

Less games: Not a good idea. For a good list, 200 games per engine are necessary. Don't forget that TCEC has a list with many complications. In Rapidroid, i always check the ELO trend with graphics and i see that stability starts after 9-10 rounds. Approx 180-200 games.

Gurcan Uckardes said...

You've got some specific issue with Andscacs. I confirm zero abnormal termination in Rapidroid after 400+ games. Ranking will soon be published as soon as i get back home.

Alexei Chernakoff said...

I need to watch the games (throw them to me), but I did not have problems with Andscacs in CFA.

Alex said...

Rahul Srivastav, the .cfg file must be in the same folder with engine (if i remember correctly, you need to install .cfg file as "engine" to the CFA). P.S. Same .cfg file working for both Firenzina 2.4.2 and Firenzina 2.4.3. Also read comment about engine here http://chesstroid.blogspot.gr/2016/12/android-uci-engine-update-firenzina-243.html

Rahul Srivastav said...

Hi, Alex first i uninstall the cfa and reinstall cfa after that i did Firenzina 2.4.3 default fire.cfg file edite like below/above mention and install both file as engine in cfa but it show,engine failed to run/program cannot run"/

// System
Verbose_UCI 0
Write_Log 0
Hash 128
Pawn_Hash 32
Max_Threads 4
Min_Threads 4
MultiPV 1

Thanks for information,i will be trying to install,perhaps one day it will be.Thanks

Alex said...

Okay Rahul, the problem is empty space in engine name, original name is (Firenzina_2.4.3 AP_uci.arm7.pie) rename it to Firenzina_2.4.3_AP_uci.arm7.pie, i just tried it, it is working, don't install .cfg file to the CFA, just keep it in the same folder with the engine.

Gurcan Uckardes said...

Great catch by Alex. I remember now that i'd suffered the same way with Firenzina and healed after renaming months ago.

Rahul Srivastav said...

Hi,Alex
Should i rename the file in fire.cfg (and it will be great if you send me the link by doing what is necessary in firenzina please) i think i am confused how to do.

Alex said...

Rahul here it is, keep fire.cfg file in the same folder with the engine, don't add it to CFA, (i've set threads to min 4 - max 4, you can set more or less by yourself, you know how :) )
https://app.box.com/s/69jptqhkvk0wmcayg60ksgudx9hp7gyl

Alex said...

Rahul, engine is renamed and .cfg file is ok, you can use them.

Rahul Srivastav said...

Alex, now i install your rename firenzina in cfa and cfa show engine exits. I think android naugat is bad for chess and don't worry there are more engine too why are we spending much time for only firenzina.probably,in some months sir Alexie and Gurcan can provide us stronger engine then firenzina.
But thanks thanks thanks a lot for help me by heartily.
Thanks

Gurcan Uckardes said...

Rahul, so you did all that's described in this post and still exits? http://chesstroid.blogspot.com/2016/12/android-uci-engine-update-firenzina-243.html?m=1
Is it 2.4.3 or 2.4.1 in your case?

Rahul Srivastav said...

Sir Gurcan,firenzina2.4.1 is run nice and great.

the proplem is with firezina2.4.3.